How Kyle Whissel Wins Listings in Californias Competitive Market

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As the housing supply shrinks, California’s sellers markets are heating up fast. In fact, the top 3 most competitive markets in the nation are all in California. Seller leads are obviously golden for your business, but how do you go about finding seller leads and converting them?  

Top-performing BoomTown client, Kyle Whissel, of Whissel Realty in San Diego, knows second place pays zero, but since he’s typically carrying 20 to 30 listings at a time. he also knows how to nail a first impression with seller leads. We chatted with him to get the real deal on sourcing seller leads and delivering brutally effective listing presentations, to help you stand out from the competition and land those listings in your California market.  

 

Step 1: How to Generate Seller Leads

First things first. If you’re feeling hard-pressed to even generate seller leads to even start to win over, Kyle has some tips.  

Adopt a buyer

Whissel has seen it too many times. After the sale, when he’s been representing a seller, the buyer’s agent vanishes. That’s when he swoops in.

Introduce yourself to the buyers. Congratulate them on their new home. You can even bring them flowers or balloons and send them a congratulatory card. Although they just bought a home, they are future sellers. Making an impression and staying top of mind with them will have them seeking you out in 3-5 years when it’s time to upgrade/downsize/relocate.  

Open Houses

“But I don’t see any value in open houses.” Many agents shy away from this traditional marketing tactic, but not Whissel Realty. They embrace it, and put their own unique spin on them.  “The value we get from open houses is incredible. We put very little investment in, and then you  literally have people walking into a house that you’re selling, while you’re sitting there, and you get to build relationships with them face-to-face. Even those that are socially awkward will at least send an email asking questions after an open house.”  

Here’s how they do it:

Whissel Realty Open House

Kyle Whissel’s team averages 5-6 open houses on an average weekend with anywhere from 20-100 prospects in attendance.

 

Promotion, promotion, promotion

  • Signs: Team Whissel typically puts out 100, yes 100 signs out around a neighborhood to promote an open house
  • Mail drop: They canvas the neighborhood and door drop invitations
  • Direct mail: flyers and postcards are also mailed out to promote the event
  • Calls: Team Whissel ISAs hop on the phones and call everyone within a mile radius of the listing
  • Social media: Invitations are posted in neighborhood Facebook groups and NextDoor

 

Neighbors-Only + Public Open Houses

Whissel and his team structure their open houses so the first portion is open to the public, and then from 1-3 pm, it’s a neighbors-only event. This is a great way to get the community involved and meet other potential sellers!

 

Target Communities

When you focus on a specific area to generate seller leads, or geographically farm for seller leads, it’s an opportunity to tailor your efforts to market to a specific persona. Whissel and his team found that their wine and cheese parties were a huge hit with the younger, 20s-30s crowd, but in their older neighborhoods, where residents were 50+, their wine and cheese parties weren’t as much or a hit. Is the neighborhood filled with families? If you’re hosting an event or open house, rent a bouncy house and get some barbecue going in the backyard!

Step 2: Prepare for the Seller Prospect Call

This is the conversation that lands the listing appointment. Here’s how to prepare.   Know Your Market

Nope. There’s just no substitute to understanding your market, knowing your stats, trends, and projections. Refreshing yourself on this information weekly and rehearsing how you’ll deliver and explain its significance is fundamental to establishing trust during your initial conversations.

I have a degree in economics and I’m a total numbers guy. What gets me every time is that people are following articles in the newspaper about the housing market, and that information is stale. They’re chasing lagging indicators not leading indicators. You’ve got to pay attention  to the most current interest rates, transaction data, inventory and the number of pending listings, etc. to get a current market snapshot.

 Know Your Value 

When you understand your value, you can handle any objection a seller might throw your way. What is your unique approach and differentiator? Clients respect value and professionalism.

Don’t compromise on price, as price is only an issue in the absence of value. When someone asks if there is wiggle room, the answer is no. Are we cheap? No. Are we worth it? Absolutely. I went head-to-head with another agent who takes a lower percentage. I did some digging and found that he historically sells house 3% less listing value that we do. Boom. There’s your value.  That’s what you tell your lead. 

 Role Play and Practice your Scripts

If you use scripts, and you probably should, practice them so they don’t come across as canned, patronizing or robotic responses. This consistent prep will allow you to quickly and authoritatively answer initial questions from prospects. Whissel and his team role play on the phone 10x a week. ISAs, agents, people outside the company, everyone is involved.

Some of the best script inspiration comes from role playing. You can learn so much from other people. We choose a topic for the week and role play with a focus on buyers Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and Sellers on Tuesday and Thursdays. We also always role play the actual listing presentation so you’re completely polished when you go in there and present to a seller.

Step 3: Making a Winning Seller Prospect Call

Most important thing: really focus on where they want to go next. Too many realtors are just focused on the listing. Whissel and his team want to get them excited about what the end goal is instead.

We call our approach “building a roadmap for people” if you know someone wants to go to Arizona, what attracts them? What’s out there for them? If you ever run into rough times, you can fall back on that end goal to get them excited.

The type of home seller you are speaking with will influence your overall approach:

  • For a first time seller, your conversations should demonstrate your understanding of the process and how you’ll coach them through it.
  • If they’ve sold a home before, they’ll likely have a good idea as to the process and what to expect, so you should focus on getting answers to the next three questions.

 

Ask Your Seller Prospects the Right Questions

What Are you looking for in a real estate professional?

By answering this question, you’re essentially receiving your success metrics; meet these metrics and you’re increasing your odds of winning the listing.

This is the question that’s changed everything. I want to make the presentation about you, not me, so getting a list of the things that matter to you, so when prospects answer this question, they’re basically handing me my listing presentation.

Just out of curiosity, are you interviewing anyone else?

When you know who you’re competing against you can gauge their weaknesses and strengths, so you can showcase the qualities that set you apart.

Why are you selling?

Try to uncover the psychographic factors of your seller prospect and leverage your knowledge of the DISC assessment to tailor your approach and communication style.

Step 4: Nail the Listing Appointment

Behind-the-Scenes Prep-Work

  • The first thing to remember is don’t wing it. Prepare at least one day in advance. Remember your value and your list of key differentiators, and rehearse saying them in context of conversation.
  • Since you’ll know your competition, anticipate what they’ll likely say and present. Neutralize their strengths and exploit their weaknesses by emphasizing your core strengths and key differentiators.
  • Familiarize yourself with the seller prospect’s neighborhood. Drive or walk around it. Know the market stats inside and out, and how to interpret and pull insights from these stats.
  • Understand that much of your competition will use a standard CMA product because it’s turnkey and easy. You can use this standardization to your advantage by looking at what unique assets or attributes you can bring to the CMA you present.
  • Sometimes sellers’ expectations are set by a portal AVM (i.e. Zestimate), so make sure you know how the portals are representing housing prices in your seller prospect’s neighborhood. Arrive armed with a detailed CMA that demonstrates the most accurate and relevant comparable data.

 Put your understanding of the type of seller you’re meeting into action:

  • A first time seller needs education, coaching, and a detailed walk-through of the home selling process. With this type of client you’re a coach and mentor. Reassure them that you’ve got everything covered.
  • For a seasoned seller, you may want to touch on your experience and knowledge, but by and large these clients will want you to cut to the chase on your points of differentiation. How will you market the home? How large is your database of contacts and are they looking for homes that match up to the seller’s home?
  • For your luxury, downsize, upsize, or investor customers, make a list of five to 10 questions they’ll likely ask (based on your initial call with them).  Answer these questions and layer theses answers into your presentation.

Thank goodness for BoomTown technology! I was meeting with a $3.7 million listing. I knew he’d want to know how many homes I’d sold at this price point and I knew I was weak there. I didn’t focus on that. I focused on my ability, to right in front of him, open my database, and filter it down to 200 buyers looking in that price range and then even further to 33 buyers, with names, phone numbers, and email addresses that were looking for $3+million homes in his zipcode.

Here are some general guidelines to tailor your presentation around:

  • Luxury – They are all about the numbers and they’ve done their homework. Bring a marketing plan that goes above and beyond the status quo.
  • Investment – They care how fast you can sell the property and for how much.
  • Downsize – This is most likely the last home they’re going to sell and their retirement is top of mind.
  • Upsize – This seller needs to get the most for their current house so they can buy their dream home.

 

When it’s game time, keep these tips in mind:

  1. Dress for success
  2. Prepare for a digital presentation but have a hard copy backup in case your digital devices fail
  3. Have everything prepped the day before; this means your presentation, CMA, listing agreement, etc. NEVER prepare the day of the meeting
  4. Always show up 15 minutes early but don’t knock on the door early as the seller may not be ready for you; but ALWAYS knock on the door at precisely the scheduled time. (It’s amazing how many agents are late to a listing appointment!)
  5. Showcase your existing database to demonstrate how you’ll market the home.
  6. Have two people in your meeting. You’d be amazed what situations arise during presentations, and having some extra hands and support can save the day.

 

Ask for the Listing

Have your listing contract ready to be signed. Even if you’re first to present against your competition, ask for the business…you may be surprised that the homeowner is ready to move forward without meeting with the other candidates.

I like to go bold with my sales approach. I’ll ask the prospective seller if they’re like to go ahead and sign the agreement, and then I tell them they don’t need to have any other meetings and I’d be more than happy to take care of letting the other agents down personally, so they don’t have to have any awkward conversations.

Step 5: Follow up and Follow through with Seller Leads

Even if you don’t get the deal signed in the meeting, leave the listing agreement and follow-up immediately. Whissel and his team always send a handwritten card and then send a video through email or text thanking them for the appointment and going over key points from the meeting.

It’s crucial to have a seller follow-up process in place to stay in touch. Remember, polite persistence is paramount…no spam. Ask them the best way to keep in touch and setup a reminder immediately.